Monday, November 18, 2013

Hey Women, Men Are People Too.

This is a rant. I'm not citing sources; you can look them up and correct me if you like.

Lately the internet has run amok with ubiquitous "Real Men" posts. Real men do this, real men don't do that, such and such is what it takes to be a real man, and only by meeting the criteria for a real man will you be considered for employment as a mate. These are almost unanimously met with "Amen, Sistah"s and other affirmations all around. However, not once to my knowledge has there been anything similar regarding Real Women. Imagine if the tables were turned and some bitter man penned a treatise on what constitutes a real woman. He'd be chased out with virtual torches and pitchforks and labeled a chauvinist pig.

Whether intentionally or not, modern culture has become such that men are held to a certain standard of conduct and women largely are not. Any few standards to which women are or used to be held, e.g. chastity, kindness, beauty and/or childrearing prowess, are contested and ultimately abandoned, because oppression. In today's culture, a man's chief duty is to everyone else, while a woman's foremost duty is to herself. A woman is entitled to a good man, while a man must fight, jump through hoops, beg for and otherwise "earn" a good woman.

Think I'm wrong? Consider this. One of my Facebook friends recently boasted about how her toddler daughter pushed a little boy over a toy. "Girl power," she called it. Had it been her son who pushed a little girl, it would be neither cute nor commendable. It's not just her, though. Society in general is sending the message that women behave less than admirably for good reasons and men for selfish or evil reasons. If a woman bullies a man, she's fighting off her male oppressors. Good for her. If a man bullies a woman, lock him up. If a woman abandons her family, she probably wasn't happy at home. If a man abandons his family, he's a deadbeat. If a girl breaks a guy's heart, she deserved better anyway. If a guy breaks a girl's heart, he let a good thing go. If a girl want's out of the friend zone, she's following her heart. If a guy wants out of the friend zone, he's got ulterior motives. If a woman goes apeshit, she's just in a bad place that she probably didn't put herself in. If a man goes apeshit, he's just apeshit. I could go on for days.

In spite of the popular idea that women want to be equals, they also still want to be princesses. That is to say, they want the best that chivalry and equality have to offer with none of the responsibility to anyone but themselves. Every woman hopes and expects to be treated like a princess by her man, but none of them want to treat their man like a king. In a world where women can own property, support themselves and otherwise live independently, they still quantify their relationships according to what the man can offer. Does he take you on nice dates? Did he buy you a big rock? Does he patiently wait out all your emotional tirades? Does he think you're beautiful all the time? Is he emotionally available? Is he a good father? Does he have a good job? And, most importantly, DOES HE EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN?

These are the qualities of a "real man": someone who selflessly provides and gives of himself while thinking only the best of his lady. What, then, can his lady be expected to contribute in return? What constitutes a real woman in this modern world? Sex? Only if she feels like it. Household duties? Only if she enjoys it and doesn't have something better to do, and even then you're expected to help. Child-rearing? Again, only if she wants kids and doesn't want to outsource their parenting to daycare, and even then you're expected to help. Emotional support? Only if you're not a pussy. Helping out financially? Maybe, but she'll resent you for being a poor provider. Commitment? Only if you meet her every demand and you do nothing divorce-worthy like aging, losing your job or treating her less like a princess. Respect for your personal needs, desires and ambitions? Not likely.

Is it any wonder why non-religious guys don't want to get married anymore? Dear Christ.

Women, it's time to decide if you want to be a princess or an equal. Those of you who keep trying to be both are scaring off the men for those of us who have picked and are willing to treat their men with the respect they are due. /endrant 

57 comments:

  1. Well thought out and well written. Keep fighting the good fight.

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    1. Most of the details of this rant are offensive, when they occur, but keep in mind that not ALL women are guilty of this. I'm definitely not and the friend who encouraged her child to use violence to solve a problem will regret it regardless of sex. What has gone forgotten about this post is the common knowledge that PICTURES speak much louder than words and women are bombarded every day by photoshopped pics of the impossible "real woman". So, are some women WASPs...sure. Some men are Neanderthals as well. But the author's examples are severe and ignore modes of communication that are clearly more effective than memes.

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    2. And you believe Men do not get similar treatment? Look at all adds up for men in clothing stores and cologne commercials. You think male models do not get photoshopped? That we do not feel social pressure to appear a certain way? You may be right that as a rant it has more emotion than anything, but do not believe that women are the only ones in society pressured to act a certain way or appear a certain way.

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  2. Due to all of the above, even commenting with too much approval may be frowned upon. However, I heartily approve.

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  3. This is an amazing post, thank you. I have been watching the parade of Real Men posts for years now and frankly I am sick of it. Being black, male, and catholic I agree with all of this. Being male, I experience the role reversal where it's fashionable for women to bash men but not the other way around, as a black man I experience a side similar to women where I can cry foul at white oppression but I don't have to accept fair turn. As a Catholic I can see why the non-religious have exponentially more trouble to contend with in the dating world.

    Women had it bad in the past, now it seems Men have lost most of the power. I am ready for equilibrium. In support of the double standard you mentioned, have you ever noticed how a pretty girl with no money is always dating but a good looking guy with no money isn't. That is unless he has a sugar momma, of course.

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  4. "However, not once to my knowledge has there been anything similar regarding Real Women. Imagine if the tables were turned and some bitter man penned a treatise on what constitutes a real woman."

    Here's one for you:
    http://www.genderratic.com/p/3053/femininities-a-real-woman/

    "He'd be chased out with virtual torches and pitchforks and labeled a chauvinist pig.

    I'm a gay man and I really could not care less about any of that.

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    1. Meh, it's just a post stating "real men" quotes and then turning the tables to show how stupid these statements are.

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  5. Finally men are standing up to bitch behavior: http://manhood101.com

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  6. How to keep a bitch in check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zSRkBMPng&list=UUXzU-ga7_6hCMQYbnQF4jeQ

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  7. Actually there are plenty of articles written on what a 'real' woman is like.

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    1. mostly bullshit form feminists point of view shaming femininity and healthy weight while praising sluttiness and obesity.

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    2. Modern relationships should be partnerships where the COUPLE decide TOGETHER what an equitable distribution of the responsibilities include. You don't like washing dishes, well if your partner hates taking out the trash you've just made a bargain. If you find yourself partnered with someone who wants you to carry all of the weight, domestic, financial, social, sexual, or any other, you should take a moment to re-evaluate your self worth and decide if you're better off telling the other person to hit the damned road.
      What posts like this miss completely is that it isn't about gender anymore. It's about two people (or in some cases more) making a life together and deciding together how to handle the responsibilities that come with being functioning adults in a modern society.

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    3. Modern relationships are what we have nowadays; 50% of them are ending in divorce because the woman wasn't haaaaaaaapppy and she doesn't worry about raising her children in a single-mother household.

      Adrianne, you're toxic; 5 years ago I might have used you as a cock-cozy, but nowadays I wouldn't even give you the pleasure.

      Oh, and incidentally - you sound like an idiot saying that people have "genders". Nouns have genders; people have sexes.

      Hah! Both useless as a wife, and useless as a conversationalist! I hope you do anal, otherwise you'll be making a herd of cats happy..

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    4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

      The term is still applicable and correct.

      Obviously since I don't value traditional gender roles in relationships I MUST be stupid or toxic. I'm sure it makes you feel better to provide insult rather than useful conversation. Fortunate for both of us I don't casually screw assholes.

      People in general right now are lazy. This is why marriages fail. One or both parties does not take the time to discover and provide what makes the other person happy, and I'll give you a hint: It's not all that difficult if you put in just a little bit of effort and take care of yourself like a functioning adult.

      Anyone in a relationship who feels that they are "entitled" to do anything or have anything given to them is wrong. It is not the fault of gender roles or feminism. It is laziness and entitlement, plain and simple.

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    5. A truly 'equitable' relationship is highly improbable, because in the end someone will do more, and that someone is usually a womyn. But I do agree that both partners must decide what is right for them otherwise a man who wants traditional gender roles with a womyn who doesn't, their relationship will fail miserably. I think in a sense gender roles are ingrained within us, in our biology, but these natural gender roles do differ a bit from the so called artificial feminine and masculine concepts that we are taught from the degenerate Judeo-Christian tradition.

      But in your view Adrienne, my views on gender would be doubly chauvinistic and doubly misogynist compared to the Judeo-Christian traditional norms. As I feel that our misogynistic religions themselves are mirrored on the feminine artificial model, where a man submits to God, this in my view is highly non-masculine because a man who embraces true masculinity does not submit to anyone let alone an imaginary God. A womyn, who is a natural sexual submissive in the least, will not have a good time being in a relationship with a man who submits to an imaginary God.

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    6. I don't believe this article is strictly calling for 100% equitable relationships. Rather, it calls out women who want both equality AND gender-based preferential treatment.

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    7. In this case the MRM womyn are no different, they are still a bunch of feminists in disguise (as is the whole MRM movement), choosing the lesser of the two evils will not solve anything. I can't stand the political correctness of Avfm and their socialist tendencies.

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    8. I automatically dismiss your reply because of the way you spell women. it gets in the way of your actual argument, which I merely disagree with, not dismiss

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  8. "Women, it's time to decide if you want to be a princess or an equal." - thank you.

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  9. @themysticphilosopher :

    Where ? You think 1 out of 1000 articles really qualifies as some sort of balance ?
    Especially when that one article is obscure and gets slammed because "misogyny !" if anybody does manage to notice it ?

    I noticed all of this 20 years ago. It's all about what a man should do and never about what a woman could be doing to make her spouse or boyfriend a little more comfortable. Can it really be any sort of mystery why fewer and fewer men are willing to even consider marrying a woman from the 'developed' world ?

    I wouldn't say that it's the fault of all women that they're being taught to be so selfish and demanding. On the other hand , until somebody starts telling them that actually , yeah , you know you do have to think about what you can do for him on a regular basis , more and more women are going to find themselves lonely even if "empowered".

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    1. The problem is that womyn have no idea what it means to be a womyn any longer, the feminine core of each womyn is lost in the Judeo-Christian propaganda as well the the current socialist political climate and the feminist need to emulate and become men.

      There are many so-called 'traditionalist' blogs where womyn give false advice to each other (because it is based on the Judeo-Christian ideal), but in reality these same womyn are looking out for their own material rather than spiritual self-interest. Because womyn have lost the spiritual feminine core within them, this same core allows the divine feminine to live on and for a womyn to assume her true subservient nature in regards to the man she chooses.

      The problem with such articles as labeled misogynist is that many white-knights actually themselves attack the men and womyn who speak out against the destruction of the feminine and masculine ideals. I have been attacked countless of times by white-knights who believe that men and womyn should have equal rights.

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  10. What this really boils down to is that everyone is a valuable person (regardless of gender) and everyone needs to stop being an asshole to each other. Claiming to be ignorant of the inherent privilege you have as a man because SOME women like to bash men as a whole is ignorant and completely backwards. The offenses you listed above are not universal standards of behavior by any means. Do you truly think "modern women" all want to be princesses? Because that is complete bullshit. That belief is a thousand times more harmful than a woman believing that they deserve to be treated a certain way. Be offended that people can't seem to treat everyone with respect and compassion. Don't be offended that you have recently been introduced to a fraction of what women have had to endure for centuries.

    Also--I'm confused as to what you meant when you said "Sex? Only if she feels like it." Are you implying that it shouldn't be their choice whether or not to have sex? Because that might just be the most fucked up part of this horrifying blogpost.

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    1. She is saying that women tend to use the withholding of sex as a powerplay in relationships. Which many do. I can see that you're chomping at the bit to launch into a Rape Society diatribe but that's not what she was implying.

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    2. I'm gonna disagree. The idea of everyone being intrinsically valuable by definition is what got us here. Due to vigorous social grooming to develop skills to become valuable men have an independence streak. It is what drives and defines male relationships.

      Want girls to start being truly empowered instead of just aspiring to? Get them to develop skills like the boys.

      We need strong women. Not for men to turn into women. Don't neuter men in the name of equality.

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    3. "Want girls to start being truly empowered instead of just aspiring to? Get them to develop skills like the boys.

      We need strong women. Not for men to turn into women. Don't neuter men in the name of equality."

      Ironically you're asking women to be neutered and turned into men. How about we forgo the gender roles as they do nothing but strangle our society into barely being human.

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    4. "Also--I'm confused as to what you meant when you said "Sex? Only if she feels like it." Are you implying that it shouldn't be their choice whether or not to have sex? Because that might just be the most fucked up part of this horrifying blogpost."

      I didn't read that at all. What I read was this: If a guy wants sex but the girl doesn't, the man has to back off or he's a bastard at best, a rapist at worst. But if the situation is reversed--a girl wants sex but the guy doesn't--then the guy is still at fault for not meeting her needs. No matter what, the guy is at fault.

      It's also saying that, when it comes to sex, the woman has all of the power. Whatever she wants (sex or no-sex) is proper; whatever the man wants (sex or no-sex) is hurtful to the woman. It's a no-win situation for men, and that's not just unfair, it's wrong.

      What's the alternative? Not 100% statistical equality ("Sorry honey, you denied me sex 7 times while I only denied it 3 times. Drop 'em!"), but it's okay sometimes (Sometimes!) to have sex with someone you love even if you're not really into it. The key words here are "sometimes" and "someone you love", so don't try taking this to extremes.

      (Yes, I'm a guy. Yes, there were times when I didn't want to have sex with my wife. And yes, there were times when I did anyway because I loved her and I shouldn't have exclusive rights to control that aspect of our relationship.)

      Lastly, if you think this blog post is horrifying and fucked up, then you either read way too much into it or you are the one who's fucked up.

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  11. I did not read this post, because this web page looks like it was made in 1996 and there is no excuse for something written so recently being so poorly designed; also because, as a male, there is nothing that makes me cringe more than reading what other males think are "intelligent" counterpoints to feminism.

    However, based on what I DID read, which was the comment section, the demographic for this post is 'ignorant men who are uncomfortable with the realization of how sexist our world is'. Rather than hearing things that make them think "hey! that's not fair!" they hear every feminist issue as a personal attack.

    It is impossible to have an intelligent contribution to a conversation about sexism while talking about "bitch behavior" and sharing videos about "keeping a bitch in check" (as was so insight fully found in your comment section).

    Yes, there is feminism that attacks men. It's awful. However, focusing on only that small portion of feminism is ignorantly ignoring that women do face many more forms of discrimination (some small, some large) in modern society then men do. Feminism, (the real, not men-hating feminism) isn't about hurting men, it's about equality. Inform yourself before you let a few poorly written angry blog posts lead you to writing your own poorly written angry blog post.

    With that, I'll leave a quote:

    "Men’s rights activists don’t organize marches; they don’t build shelters or raise funds for abused men; they don’t organize prostate cancer-awareness events or campaign against prison rape. What they actually do, when they’re not simply carping in comments online, is target and harass women—from feminist writers and professors to activists—in an attempt to silence them."

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    1. Brilliant parody, sir. Either that or you're a rube who has yet to self identify. In all fairness, I'm sure there's very little time for introspection when you're so busy polishing your white armor to such a blinding finish.

      "I'm not going to read this article because it offends my superior sense of aesthetics, but I'm going to preach about how wrong you are anyway."

      That's gold.

      Also, "Don't generalize a group of people in a way I find offensive. But now I'm going to generalize MRAs because I'm superior to them."

      That's golden-age Simpsons quality satire right there, sir. Bravo.

      "Men’s rights activists don’t organize marches; they don’t build shelters or raise funds for abused men;"

      Sure they do. Except what happens following that is that they get ignored, then pilloried, lambasted, and harassed until they either A. go bankrupt for lack of those sweet, sweet government dollars that women's shelters thrive on, or B. they end up committing suicide because the fight destroys them. See: http://preview.tinyurl.com/mp5dhz4

      Prison rape has somehow become a culturally accepted standard for justice, and it's appalling. I do not have to imagine the response should I ever advocate for the brutal rape of a female convict because... male privilege or something. 82% of suicide victims are male. 95% of workplace fatality victims are male. Women initiate more than 70% of the divorces in this country, and where children are involved the mother will be awarded custody 93% of the time (hearteningly, in cases where fathers do contest custody the gender split comes significantly closer to 50/50). Men have little to no reproductive choices; see your state's paternity laws. Compare and contrast the number of homeless men vs. the number of homeless women.

      But please, do go on with your thesis that MRAs are nothing more than frustrated misogynists.

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    2. This was written by a woman. Awkward.

      "I did not read this post, because this web page looks like it was made in 1996 and there is no excuse for something written so recently being so poorly designed;"

      It's a blog...


      "Men’s rights activists don’t organize marches; they don’t build shelters or raise funds for abused men; they don’t organize prostate cancer-awareness events or campaign against prison rape. What they actually do, when they’re not simply carping in comments online, is target and harass women—from feminist writers and professors to activists—in an attempt to silence them."

      They do all of those things. Educate yourself. Actually, when they do, there are always counter protests. In the EU, there is a bill being considered to qualify criticism of feminism as hate speech. Almost as if, gasp, they're trying to silence them!

      "Feminism, (the real, not men-hating feminism) isn't about hurting men, it's about equality. Inform yourself before you let a few poorly written angry blog posts lead you to writing your own poorly written angry blog post."

      No true scotsman falacy. However, here is a little bit of what "real feminists" do.

      http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1s66ds/a_little_compilation_of_realworld_feminism/

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    3. "I did not read this post, because this web page looks like it was made in 1996."

      I did not read your comment because it wasn't adorned with fancy bells and whistles, either.

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    4. If you actually believe, genuinely believe, that the quality of a written piece is directly related to your opinion of its aesthetic design, you are a fucking idiot, and your opinion is irrelevant. I'm not sure why I'm replying to you.

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  12. Now that's a real woman right there.

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  13. Thank you so much for saying what society will not let us say.

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  14. Sorry for multiple comments .. Thank you for your post. I always have wondered over this.

    When women think they ought to be respected "just because they are women", do they respect men "just because they are men"?. Can I demand respect for being 5" 7'? Or being an Indian? These are all bullshit criteria for demanding respect.

    Respect has to be earned, it's not a right by birth. Applies to both men and women. Do respectable things and you don't have to demand respect at all. You get it automatically. As simple as that.

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    1. I think you are confusing decency and respect. You are correct that respect is earned, but decency and courtesy should be a given to any fellow human, free of charge.

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    2. No.

      No courtesy for innately hostile beings such as feminists, nor decency, because they have re-defined both terms and now use them as weapons where any other party must obey or be excoriated.

      Courtesy and decency were expected social norms that required both parties to behave in certain ways. You demand such from men, but refuse to behave in the required manner, nor countenance such an idea.

      TL;DR version: OP's point validated.

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    3. Slightly disagree. I think everyone deserves respect until they prove otherwise. If I meet you for the first time, I will treat you with respect regardless of your gender, race, religion, political affiliation, etc. It's only if you start acting like a jackass that I will stop respecting you.

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  15. Bravo! I love reading essays that are both very well-thought out, and that are also so gut-level passionate they feel like standing in front of a blast furnace.


    Also, manhood101, could you guys please either shut up or learn marketing skills?

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  16. Thank you so much for writing this fair and honest post. I think it's astute and something not many will likely want to hear. I truly hope there are more women like yourself who employ a similar awareness about topics such as these. :) When it feels like you can't do anything right as a guy, your written words here are reassuring and encouraging.

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  17. Excellent post. Thank you for speaking up. I made the conscious decision to treat women as equals and my own family has begun to ostracize me for it.

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  18. This was excellent, and somethiing that I've noticed and been irked about for years. I'm a woman, and it always bothers me to see the entitled nature of a lot of women's expectations surrounding men. Some of the advice I've seen offered to women along those lines has been utterly appalling. My favourite was some "dating advice" which essentially said that a relationship will be the most successful if the woman is getting everything she wants; anything less, and the man is a jerk and you should dump him. WTH?

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  19. Very well written and as a man, I have to thank you very much. This really hits home.

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  20. You need to bring your message to a wider audience...write for A Voice for Men. They already have several women on their writing staff...the more the merrier.

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    1. Thanks for the lead! Is this particular post something that would be welcome there, or are they looking for more statistically/empirically based posts?

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  21. As a woman even i am prone to agreeing with this statement but its the fault of both genders not just one. Im a woman who loves cooking cleaning raising the kids taking care of my man and making him feel loved and i also like working to support my family (even if that is my man included) but the issue is balance. Everyone needs to feel loved and needed and appriciated. which is something lacking in our world. It builds a resentment that causes the for mentioned issues. If i work full time and im still responsible for cleaning cooking raisin the kids and giving massages to the man and keeping him perfectly happy while he studies at home for a future job but spends most of the day on the computer playing and i get no affection in return and no help the man seems rather irrelevant. Now if hes hard at work and im home with the kids and cleaning and taking care of him Its all good so long as im appreciated for the work i do. Its the same for the man. If shes at home while you work he just wants to know that his work is appreciated and hes cared for. its not a gender issue its a respect issue and a total lack of true companionship in society today. You have to show your partner that what they do and work for has meaning. On both sides. Everyone men and woman take this concept for granted. Hence the angry rants

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    1. I totally disagree with you. The mindset of reciprocity of which you speak is at the core of the problem. You expect in return for your love and support...that is a selfish proposition. You give love, not for yourself, but for others. Unfortunately, this concept is lost on today's "me" based society, and women being vocal creatures are crying a loud "foul" across the media about the unfairness of men. Love and support FOR others, expect nothing in exchange, and you will have become enlightened.

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  22. Seriously, thank you for this article. I don't think ALL women have this princess-but-equal problem, but I do think you describe a serious problem in Western culture, that sometimes men cannot win and, again sometimes, boorish behavior by women gets a pass.

    This is not to say there isn't a long, long history of males being jerks to women. It still goes on today in plenty of guys. But pointing out a related but different problem does not detract from that, and two wrongs still don't make a right.

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  23. Bottle it and spike the water supply! You have accurately described what many of us "Real Men" have been feeling for a very looooooong time. I personally do not subject myself to further "expectations", instead choosing to be a great dad, and nothing more. That is one relationship where judgement and loving support do not come with strings attached.

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  24. For those who disagree with the author: If you want a proof source, I challenge the ladies to go home, inform your male partner that he can quit his job, in exchange for performing household duties. Now a few groundrules first. You are to insure that both of your names are on the bank account, so he has unempeded access to the cash. You are to provide him with transportation, fuel, insurance etc. (It must be the best car in the house, by the way. He is transporting your offspring after all). You are to provide him with healthcare and food, you make the entire housepayment and make sure there are weekend getaways and annual vacations. Your children may be in school half of the day, but that's ok...he will want you to share the work when you get home after a long day as the provider. Now do this for an entire year while he complains that you don't make enough money, you are boring, or that the neighbor husband has a bigger house and better car. If you get through that year while also being denied sex, and the words lazy pig, never cross your lips...you will have attained enlightenment on what its like to be a man today. Good luck

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  25. How unsurprising, I don't even dare to share this article.

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  26. How about what it takes to be a decent human being? I have seen both sides. Men who beat their women. Let their women work hard for their money to support their children and watch their lazy ass husband piss it down the drain in alcohol and still have the audacity to cheat on them. I've seen women who come at a man like a man but don't expect to be knocked down like one. Women who talk about training their men like a dog because they rather pick a asshole to begin with over a nice guy that they always say they want but lie. Men aren' t dogs. For every man that acts like a dog there is double if not triple the amount of women that are the counter part bitch. I as a woman am tired of watching women who use men and turn nice guys into assholes. I've seen women go after men that make money who are jerks over men that might not have the best job who are kind and caring. I have also seen men who pick high maintenance women over a woman that is a good friend . For some its being well off others looks but if we don't look deeper than that don't expect better you can't have it all. Let's stop asking what makes a real man or a real woman? And start asking what makes a good decent human? I have agreements and disagreements with both sides of the argument. Let's be honest some women and men talk about equality but it will never be if you don't know what equality really means. Women that want their men to work hard and make good money, but don't want to run the household and take care of the children. Women that spend all their mans hard earned money on themselves instead of taking care of their man and sometimes even the bills. Men who expect their women to be beautiful and well kept and take care of everything in the house and the children and work only pt while their woman works ft yet show no appreciation and be little their women and still expect them want to be in the mood to jump their bones. I've seen it both ways. I know I'm not as articulated as most here but this is how I feel about the subject.

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  27. I just wrote a piece elaborating a little further with some ideas you started. I provided a link to your blog here for sourcing and gave you credit. Got me thinking! Take a look... http://capcy.com/2013/12/men-are-people-too/

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  28. "Expected" to help in household chores and child rearing ?! Your damn right they are, my boyfriend has a good job and is a great father, but so do i, i might even make more than him. But it doesnt matter, i still do all the house work, work full time + as a nurse and have to beg for him to do some cleaning or discipline our child because hes the fun one. Neither men nor women should act.like ass holes, no excuse for that but maybe if there was a change in attitude on both sides. Ill tell you after wording 10hrs, cleaning, laundry then no, i dont look pretty nor am i going to be kind, especially if i heard sports center in the background the whole time.

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  29. Is this real life? Do you understand how immature, sexist, and downright "rape-y" this article sounds? Last time I checked most women and men want equality between genders and in their relationships; meaning you'll find a woman who respects you when you respect her. And if complaining about what you think women "should" do is your way of revealing unfair double standards then I feel sorry for your mother, sister, wife, or any other woman that has the chore of interacting with you in your lifetime.

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  30. This was a rant, Holly, not a Manifesto. She is speaking of how men and women are portrayed mostly through popular media. It is the air we breathe today; look all around you. Women are told to be free agents - they owe nothing to anyone. Men are told to...man up. That's all this rant is about. And you call it ....wait for it....rape-y! You pulled out the Ace of Spades on a rant about modern culture which we all know is true. Yes,in real life, some men are assholes and some women are assholes. But in the media - specifically - women are free agents that owe nothing to anyone, and men are mono-dimensional persons who serve them.

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